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Tuesday, July 05, 2005

Saturation point

In schooldays, we read about famous contributors to Physics like Einstein, Planck, Newton, Raman, etc. Ancient mathematicians like Pythagoras, Aryabhatta, Ptolemy to "recent" ones like Euler, Ramanujam, Erdos, etc. were also well read about. The case can also be extended to Biology and Chemistry. Although work has been done in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine (as the Nobel prizes would indicate), why isn't the common man hearing anything about them?

For instance, the "latest" I can think about a major contributor(s) in the field of, say, Medicine would be Watson & Crick (of the DNA model), which was way back in 1962. I checked the Nobel prize web site and to my shame, I missed an Indian (Dr. Har Gobind Khorana) who won it in 1968. Why is that?. Is it my ignorance, or is the sylabi so badly outdated?. I know, that in this age and time, one can get infinite resources on the Net, yet, I think students would benefit if they are asked to study contemporary science side-by-side with their traditional school courses. For this reasoning, I am not considering post-graduates or post-docs in one particular field - in which case, one NEEDS to advance his/her knowledge. This applies to the extension of one's gamut of General Knoweldge.

So how much should we learn and what should we learn?

Lets take Physics as an example. Physics is a field where one good idea can turn the whole world upside down. Relativity overturned Newtonian concepts. Now quantum theory is threatening to disprove relativity. In Life sciences, Darwin's evolutionary theory was looked upon with disdain when he proposed it. But does this mean that one should not read about a "disproved fact"?. Do we need it for historical reasons?. In short, what is deserved to be known?

Is the world now made up of too many small things and none substantial?

I do not know the answer.

PS: Do we feel the same with Literature, Poetry and the Arts?

9 Comments:

  • Deepak.. I agree with you.. the science culture in India itself is so different, that students read and remember about Nobel laureates only for some quiz competitions. So much is happening in different branches of science but apart from local politics and movies, we hardly anything to read and get from our media.

    Also, truly path-breaking inventions are not occuring, as you mentioned the examples of Einstein and Watsn & Crick.. The general trend nowadays is that Nobel prize is awarded due to "contributions in certain area" rather than an invention. That explains why most of the recent recepients are 60-65+.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at July 05, 2005 3:04 PM  

  • IMHO, this same phenomenon is happening in the other areas as well. We've forgotten or we don't know anything about several greats in many fields. Everything can't be given as syllabus in schools/colleges I feel.

    I am not sure how many of the even not-so commen men would know about Watson and Crick.....! Sure I didn't know until you brought his name up.

    About sylabi being outdated...it happens all the time and it would be wise to have a seperate board / dept for that to ensure that the syllabuses are updated every year atleast.!

    By Blogger Narayanan Venkitu, at July 05, 2005 5:03 PM  

  • the subject i study economics, evolved only in the later half of the 20th century, s o we dont study outdated concepts,
    but importantly neithe do we study kautilyas arthasastra, a brilliant text on fiscal policy. its important to study such texts, and study things with much more application, all the macro\micro economics is confined to the texts. hypothetical situations.
    literature, please give me modern texts, i cant appreciate shakespear, but suerly can appreciate a modern play\text

    By Blogger ada-paavi!!!!, at July 05, 2005 6:00 PM  

  • think in subjects which havea long history like sciences and literature w study old stuff, and subjects which need application like economics, we r stuck wit hypothetical situations!!need to break these barriers as u suggest!

    By Blogger ada-paavi!!!!, at July 05, 2005 6:01 PM  

  • GP: Perhaps Nobel prizes are the ultimate award for contributions to an area. That being the case, only one (group) of scientists get the prize. This does not mean that other groups are not befitting. Is it not pitiable that we don't even GET to know the current state of physics or chemistry ATLEAST through the concept of nobel prizes?. I also feel that there is a lot of politics involved in the awarding criteria.

    Narayanan: Sylabus changing seems like a distant dream - especially when merit is based on retention capacity of the student. By the way, who is the 21st century equivalent of Kambar or Ilangovadigal?

    By Blogger tt_giant, at July 05, 2005 6:04 PM  

  • Good questions. In science, the rigorous proof that is required to either disprove an existing concept or to formulate a new one by itself is so formidable that none but the brave (armed with facts) venture to question the status quo whereas in the literature and arts which are highly subjctive, such debates can frequently occur but just because of the fact that these are seen as "soft", "non-pying" ones, there are not enough of really good ponderers and thinkers on the subjects (at least that is what I think).

    By Blogger Krish, at July 05, 2005 7:49 PM  

  • Srivatsan: You made an interesting observation regarding the ancient texts on economics and finance. Is'nt it amazing that they can still be applied?. Regarding science and why we still stick with older theories - perhaps the student has to go through steps 1, 2, ... before he reaches 100. In computer systems, although we have progressed to 64 bit processors, it would be impossible for students to understand it if they do not read about the 8 bit Intel 8086 processor.

    By Blogger tt_giant, at July 06, 2005 7:37 AM  

  • Thennavan: The renaisance period in Italy and the various cultural revolutions brought about geniuses in Music and Arts. So the main thing which is different between then and now is the ambience. Da vinci modelled the helicopter (for gods sake, it was 400 years before it was invented), apart from a dozen other things. So what prevents us from pondering?. Is the IQ level or intellect level reached a saturation point?. As GP said, why are there no more path breakers?

    By Blogger tt_giant, at July 06, 2005 7:42 AM  

  • 21st Century equivalent ? No ideas.! Sorry.!

    By Blogger Narayanan Venkitu, at July 06, 2005 5:09 PM  

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